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Taking Independent and Unofficial Back
When did you become #TeamPrince?
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maplenpg
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Another thought-provoking video. It's interesting the differences between mine and yours experiences (both UK, similar age (I'm slightly older)). Whilst you had your friend's mum (or was it your mum's friend) who gave you the cassettes and kind of introduced you to Prince, my experience was much more lonely. My parents hated him, no school friends liked him, I literally was on my own. My experience with 'U got the Look' was similar to yours with Batdance and it was the total of the 12", with the Housequake B side that really perked my ears up and started me on the road to Prince fandom.
I was only 14. but I cleaned at an accountants office every day after school. Every Friday I'd spend my wages at the local record shop. I also spent pretty much any other money for b'days etc... there too. I never really spoke to the owners (I was shy), but they got to know my face every Friday. They were really a rock record shop so they didn't stock much Prince, but they started getting bits for me. As my collection grew, my Prince purchases became more and more and so the shop started giving me any promotional literature they got and display stuff they didn't want for free. That stuff lined my bedroom walls whilst his music blasted out within them.
I hadn't really considered the power of the videos in my inauguration to #TeamPrince before, but heck they got some plays. I knew all the dance moves to both SOTT and LoveSexy Live. I guess they probably should get way more credit than I've ever given them.
But, for me, Prince live was the ultimate. And not just because he was way above and beyond anyone I'd ever seen before, not just because I left them feeling completely euphoric. But because I always went to concerts alone, I got to meet the most fantastic people along the way. Like-minded people that I'd never met before, who shared my love of Prince. To this day I think Prince has the best fans out there, they've never showed me anything but kindness.
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NightChild
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Thank you for such a wonderful comment. I love that the Record store gave you promotional literature, that's a kind of relationship that you rarely see now and it is such an amazing part of the journey. I must agree with you so, so deeply about the live aspect of Prince, I am really pretty introvert and it took a lot to go to various Concerts and Prince Events and yet whenever I did I met so many really remarkable people who embraced me, shared things with me, talked about often quite personal aspects of their lives that Prince had been an important part of. There's a real sense of Community and I think you've put it perfectly, they are the best. Thank you so much!
Christina_Denied_Tx1885
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Well .... I first became curious really in spring of last year but I didn't go any further. I didn't see a reason to. Then it was a few months later, pretty much in September where I first was introduced to Papa that's when my curiosity changed for the better into 'Ohh, hmm' .. YOu know ,I really sat there thinking about it after & that whole song gained me a whole new perspective. I really was curious as to um why , & why now? yet I , without a doubt resonated with the theme of the song, & the pain in that song. A shock to the system with that raw emotion & what he was telling us. ..What he was willing to share.
I was interested in the layout of that sound too & how I could hear, i don't know , so much, and the emotion ,the layering & some can say they hear more than 1 song in that particular track. To me, It was just all very new. very raw yet very random. It wasn't so as exciting as it was confusing to me because usually I would click on, click off , but with Papa , some serious listening seed had been planted , Strange , yet it was real & something was here now. The song i had just experienced was dark but upbeat & brutally honest. This was on a thread okay , so you had a selection of other videos too.
I then sort of sat there & thought 'nah, this don''t really add up ' but I clicked on Xtralovable [it's the one at 7.55 ] because of the colours of the picture, about to click off & then I listened ,took it in. Listened again & then I went to bed. I thought, Ohh I'll sleep this off course i will. but then, I kind of needed to listen to that again , Oh , & Papa. yeah I might need to listen to that too again
& I was quite mad at the thread I had been on actually . I was thinking . well now. YOu are listening to music not for you . You need to go to sleep missy you do , you do , ! ya no ?
So , I googled him, because that is what you do at half 2 in the morning,
half asleep, but i guess because I was listening, had a sample of this new artist.
For me , a new sound of many sounds . a new perspective, I had my two new songs that i genuinely needed to explore more , then for the first time ,read a little bit about him. I just zipped through real quick though, to be honest I don;t think I was even reading it because my eye went straight to the Graffiti Bridge album whilst Papa was still playing in my head. I thought. I know this design, i know the blue , & all the tiny art & the colours surrounding it . I sort of hd a flash back of a VHS that a friend had years ago then it clicked because I thought , with an air of trepidation.. 'Hang about , well I know you from childhood, you are that BatDance bloke ', then got confused .
I thought, 'come off the page of the mr batdance bloke click off that immeeeeeeeeeeediately, do!'
So i did lol... I went straight back to you tube of said batdance bloke [ oh , the endless freedom of the internet , it can sure be an Epiphany or a discrepancy lol.]
It was there I did some you tubing of my own instead of 'just clicking' & found 'thieves in the temple' but it was the extended version , It was sort of on the side of these ever growing recommendations, so I ignored it then I signed up here. I googled that Come album, I had like ...ten billion[ not kidding!] tabs open by this time. [Saw the cover art & that album art still resonated with me, even though.] Returned to extended version of Thieves & watched that, then paused the writing at the end.
I compared that version to the first/radio.film version, checked tik tik bang Closed all tabs , and took some time to absorb what i had just seen. not knowing if it effected me deeply , or maybe some de ja vu there or maybe i was just tired/ bored /curious/ sleepy /other ...I didn't know. I really didn;t know what i felt , at this point however. i did know that i felt displaced. my comfort zone was blown to pieces. ...or , had it shifted?
I Went back to You Tube on his official channel to just listen to the rest of the Come album. I struggled with some bits. & I thought of batdance89 which was now in the back of my mind . ..totally unimpressed now .then 'consoled;' my mind with Papa . ...because I still ' had' that song in my heart. Surreal to me , I thought okay, yeah no. but there has been a shift right ?. ..cause I still might like to own this album now. because I like Papa. Let it go, was relaxing if i'm honest, Solo was unexpected , & dark, is alright . It is a good piece of artistry here. as for Papa ? It is a reflective song and I can completely relate here. He's being deep and I like deep. It takes courage to actually talk about an abusive traumatic childhood.
I don;t really know how that night actually ended, but i knew something had started. I then found annie christian and the outtake /demo to Batdance. then i started to conk out. I was bloody knackered , Enough was enough. & he was just talking smack now , [ i left the you tube running , i think it was a sloe sensual song mix] right , To dreamland with me ~ To this day , I'm still not sure if that dwtd demo sealed the deal but I bought Come & Controversy the next day and i was quite perky about their arrival.
I now had three tracks i properly appreciated ..plus two actual cds were arriving . then over that month , bought much of his music , you know boxsets, cd greatest hits stuff , singles & compilations, Under the Cherry Moon & Graffiti Bridge on dvd , but really , it was all audio. The newbie stuff & over the next few days , dabbled on you tube where i 'found Camille singing' Good Love' , well I knew that track already because it was on one of my fave films & then , see that then took me to Crystal Ball.
I familiarised myself with Crystal Ball very much in the latter part of last September , beginning of October. & again ,as well as getting some more scope of what this one could really do , plus I was fascinated by the colours , I bought the Sign O the Times boxset because Camille was on it but unfortunately I got under , overwhelmed by all of that , though my interest had increased by noting this guy had this characters tapestry running through much of his later work, but my interest had significantly wavered partly because i was jumping eras , I found because his character control is so strong i didn't understand that type of artistry,,so, for instance when i discovered Violet the OG I didn't connect to it.
but then Tora Tora popped up & i decided to stay then , It was a bit like a game really like , oh theres another one ! , oop there goes tora tora! ~It was end of October now and I did buy D&P but I got confused & frustrated because....I mean the presentation was really top notch ,But it was alien to me , the whole boxset after boxset , also It wasn't my childhood , therefore there were no memories, Some harsh distant memories scraped up maybe, yet it was still not my joy to grasp. I felt this zero connection , zero emotion ,
The book was sure glossy, These pictures that i had never seen yet had been around in that time as a child. So, It was so surreal to me not to feel since I had always remembered emotion connected to music listening experiences. being emotional when listening toa certain song in general. i always knew where i was for a specific song! or event!
But because Prince was so new to me being very glossy in this book i didn;t really know where i was & It was bigger than me. like new uncharted territory, untraveled land you know? or something. it was all so vast. I was getting back to my old ways of nah click off ,not your concern. So, I gave up. quite abruptly , i might add. yet I kind of had some free time , so i thought well what if i , ..start from the start .......... & I began to put aside the now, 'it's too glossy' book, four tracks , the film , plus the guitar videos & simply investigate his musical influences....
To be continued ..
I was interested in the layout of that sound too & how I could hear, i don't know , so much, and the emotion ,the layering & some can say they hear more than 1 song in that particular track. To me, It was just all very new. very raw yet very random. It wasn't so as exciting as it was confusing to me because usually I would click on, click off , but with Papa , some serious listening seed had been planted , Strange , yet it was real & something was here now. The song i had just experienced was dark but upbeat & brutally honest. This was on a thread okay , so you had a selection of other videos too.
I then sort of sat there & thought 'nah, this don''t really add up ' but I clicked on Xtralovable [it's the one at 7.55 ] because of the colours of the picture, about to click off & then I listened ,took it in. Listened again & then I went to bed. I thought, Ohh I'll sleep this off course i will. but then, I kind of needed to listen to that again , Oh , & Papa. yeah I might need to listen to that too again
& I was quite mad at the thread I had been on actually . I was thinking . well now. YOu are listening to music not for you . You need to go to sleep missy you do , you do , ! ya no ?So , I googled him, because that is what you do at half 2 in the morning,
half asleep, but i guess because I was listening, had a sample of this new artist.For me , a new sound of many sounds . a new perspective, I had my two new songs that i genuinely needed to explore more , then for the first time ,read a little bit about him. I just zipped through real quick though, to be honest I don;t think I was even reading it because my eye went straight to the Graffiti Bridge album whilst Papa was still playing in my head. I thought. I know this design, i know the blue , & all the tiny art & the colours surrounding it . I sort of hd a flash back of a VHS that a friend had years ago then it clicked because I thought , with an air of trepidation.. 'Hang about , well I know you from childhood, you are that BatDance bloke ', then got confused .
I thought, 'come off the page of the mr batdance bloke click off that immeeeeeeeeeeediately, do!'
So i did lol... I went straight back to you tube of said batdance bloke [ oh , the endless freedom of the internet , it can sure be an Epiphany or a discrepancy lol.]
It was there I did some you tubing of my own instead of 'just clicking' & found 'thieves in the temple' but it was the extended version , It was sort of on the side of these ever growing recommendations, so I ignored it then I signed up here. I googled that Come album, I had like ...ten billion[ not kidding!] tabs open by this time. [Saw the cover art & that album art still resonated with me, even though.] Returned to extended version of Thieves & watched that, then paused the writing at the end.
I compared that version to the first/radio.film version, checked tik tik bang Closed all tabs , and took some time to absorb what i had just seen. not knowing if it effected me deeply , or maybe some de ja vu there or maybe i was just tired/ bored /curious/ sleepy /other ...I didn't know. I really didn;t know what i felt , at this point however. i did know that i felt displaced. my comfort zone was blown to pieces. ...or , had it shifted?
I Went back to You Tube on his official channel to just listen to the rest of the Come album. I struggled with some bits. & I thought of batdance89 which was now in the back of my mind . ..totally unimpressed now .then 'consoled;' my mind with Papa . ...because I still ' had' that song in my heart. Surreal to me , I thought okay, yeah no. but there has been a shift right ?. ..cause I still might like to own this album now. because I like Papa. Let it go, was relaxing if i'm honest, Solo was unexpected , & dark, is alright . It is a good piece of artistry here. as for Papa ? It is a reflective song and I can completely relate here. He's being deep and I like deep. It takes courage to actually talk about an abusive traumatic childhood.
I don;t really know how that night actually ended, but i knew something had started. I then found annie christian and the outtake /demo to Batdance. then i started to conk out. I was bloody knackered , Enough was enough. & he was just talking smack now , [ i left the you tube running , i think it was a sloe sensual song mix] right , To dreamland with me ~ To this day , I'm still not sure if that dwtd demo sealed the deal but I bought Come & Controversy the next day and i was quite perky about their arrival.
I now had three tracks i properly appreciated ..plus two actual cds were arriving . then over that month , bought much of his music , you know boxsets, cd greatest hits stuff , singles & compilations, Under the Cherry Moon & Graffiti Bridge on dvd , but really , it was all audio. The newbie stuff & over the next few days , dabbled on you tube where i 'found Camille singing' Good Love' , well I knew that track already because it was on one of my fave films & then , see that then took me to Crystal Ball.
I familiarised myself with Crystal Ball very much in the latter part of last September , beginning of October. & again ,as well as getting some more scope of what this one could really do , plus I was fascinated by the colours , I bought the Sign O the Times boxset because Camille was on it but unfortunately I got under , overwhelmed by all of that , though my interest had increased by noting this guy had this characters tapestry running through much of his later work, but my interest had significantly wavered partly because i was jumping eras , I found because his character control is so strong i didn't understand that type of artistry,,so, for instance when i discovered Violet the OG I didn't connect to it.
but then Tora Tora popped up & i decided to stay then , It was a bit like a game really like , oh theres another one ! , oop there goes tora tora! ~It was end of October now and I did buy D&P but I got confused & frustrated because....I mean the presentation was really top notch ,But it was alien to me , the whole boxset after boxset , also It wasn't my childhood , therefore there were no memories, Some harsh distant memories scraped up maybe, yet it was still not my joy to grasp. I felt this zero connection , zero emotion ,
The book was sure glossy, These pictures that i had never seen yet had been around in that time as a child. So, It was so surreal to me not to feel since I had always remembered emotion connected to music listening experiences. being emotional when listening toa certain song in general. i always knew where i was for a specific song! or event!
But because Prince was so new to me being very glossy in this book i didn;t really know where i was & It was bigger than me. like new uncharted territory, untraveled land you know? or something. it was all so vast. I was getting back to my old ways of nah click off ,not your concern. So, I gave up. quite abruptly , i might add. yet I kind of had some free time , so i thought well what if i , ..start from the start .......... & I began to put aside the now, 'it's too glossy' book, four tracks , the film , plus the guitar videos & simply investigate his musical influences....
To be continued ..
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Christina_Denied_Tx1885
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So, within that next couple week , I went back to his Wikipedia. actually stayed a while, but i wasn;t drawn anymore ,so then hopped over to his official channel and I browsed the demo /unreleased tracks of the new boxset . & what an uncomfortable time that was , I liked one full track , New Jack SWing track , Tip of My Tongue. I loved that , Yeah , now that i could get with ! and a guitar solo , sfthc , i think held my attention. WE were now at the end of October annnnd I now , had four solid songs i could say I honestly liked. plus a bunch of really cool albums from other artists from the late 60s / early 70s.
See, It was hard to catch up on so much music he'd given to his supporters, which were for his supporters & ^ i was not really feeling that d(p vibe , I had never supported him at that time , so made zseo sense now , i was feeling weirdly strange with an exception to these four songs , plus Graffiti Bridge because it is a film and i can do films , & there come the Graffiti Bridge soundtrack in which i like roughly half the songs & I knew I liked that no filter rock side that is cemented though him , the rock side , the punk side , the guitar playing , edgy early stuff which i had seen on you tube that fateful night .
November was creeping up, sooo I made it my business to actually get antiquated with some of these CDs i had got. I tried Dirty Mind. I kept going & I decided to embrace that hard rock side of him. Over xmas I got Chaos & Disorder. I really liked that. so i really intended to keep to his rock guitar playing because i knew if i didn't , my interest would drop Ah, at one point , I found there is lonely though .. which made me want to read up on he a bit more. So , i did and i then wanted to study the ethos of his art .
I studied his character theory first and this is what was confusing me before i think , , i signed in here a little more . and over the past month , met some great people . created a couple of threads & currently i am now starting to finally want to grasp some more of his art which is um , say as not as heavy as the theme i came in on.
Does that make sense? Ok so it is a freeing, liberating time for me currently . Not saying i like all of it , Not all of it, but more than 4 tracks, a film and a soundtrack.
Grateful for purpleandblack .org. & the people who go to it.
Kudos if anyone reads this !
So, within that next couple week , I went back to his Wikipedia. actually stayed a while, but i wasn;t drawn anymore ,so then hopped over to his official channel and I browsed the demo /unreleased tracks of the new boxset . & what an uncomfortable time that was , I liked one full track , New Jack SWing track , Tip of My Tongue. I loved that , Yeah , now that i could get with ! and a guitar solo , sfthc , i think held my attention. WE were now at the end of October annnnd I now , had four solid songs i could say I honestly liked. plus a bunch of really cool albums from other artists from the late 60s / early 70s.
See, It was hard to catch up on so much music he'd given to his supporters, which were for his supporters & ^ i was not really feeling that d(p vibe , I had never supported him at that time , so made zseo sense now , i was feeling weirdly strange with an exception to these four songs , plus Graffiti Bridge because it is a film and i can do films , & there come the Graffiti Bridge soundtrack in which i like roughly half the songs & I knew I liked that no filter rock side that is cemented though him , the rock side , the punk side , the guitar playing , edgy early stuff which i had seen on you tube that fateful night .
November was creeping up, sooo I made it my business to actually get antiquated with some of these CDs i had got. I tried Dirty Mind. I kept going & I decided to embrace that hard rock side of him. Over xmas I got Chaos & Disorder. I really liked that. so i really intended to keep to his rock guitar playing because i knew if i didn't , my interest would drop Ah, at one point , I found there is lonely though .. which made me want to read up on he a bit more. So , i did and i then wanted to study the ethos of his art .
I studied his character theory first and this is what was confusing me before i think , , i signed in here a little more . and over the past month , met some great people . created a couple of threads & currently i am now starting to finally want to grasp some more of his art which is um , say as not as heavy as the theme i came in on.
Does that make sense? Ok so it is a freeing, liberating time for me currently . Not saying i like all of it , Not all of it, but more than 4 tracks, a film and a soundtrack.
Grateful for purpleandblack .org. & the people who go to it.
Kudos if anyone reads this !
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Christina_Denied_Tx1885
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Thanks @Dalia matter of fact i do actually. I appreciate your recommendation.
Christina_Denied_Tx1885
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Not sure if I have got that one yet
I have this one. He is holding the world isn't he? But i've yet to listen to it. Gonna listen to it now
I got this one for Christmas. Ive' not check it out fully. There is one question i kinda wanna ask, I have The Versace Experience. Is that rated by supporters or not so much?
Christina_Denied_Tx1885
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I like that one.
That;s chill
That's really good . I asked because it was um ..later released . That's the thing with you guys. Don't know if it is just in this forum or in his base in general @Dalia but fans seem to be very chill ,very different. That;s my first impression he has a very sane fan base.Not petty .
Hmmm.. I like when he cuts in and says "The Vesarce Experience" It's a very unique kind of album. Its made for a catwalk it seems to me. You know I think i like Billy Jack Bitch & Free the Music. think I like Shhhh too but it might change because the titles are all quite long. there's an internet album ,...I don;t think it was ever released as physical media but it's on his official channel though, The Chocolate something..like a club x i dont know what i'm talking about
. But one song on there i like where he talks about a girl nicks his chain. the song was very put together and told a story with a twist
Christina_Denied_Tx1885
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Yeah i'm behind that I am quite fond of the early art
I think that is a good idea
edit Okay i'm doing Planet earth now @Dalia
Christina_Denied_Tx1885
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What year was this ?96
wioah - when was this ? planet earth what ?what i don't remember this im confused again lol
96wioah - when was this ? planet earth what ?what i don't remember this im confused again lol
Christina_Denied_Tx1885
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Oh
edit- genuinely shocked here lol