Purple and Black
Taking Independent and Unofficial Back
Taking Independent and Unofficial Back
The Occasional Thought Thread /Scattered thoughts
Christina_Denied_Tx1885
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ooh so would have been quite a while back then . aw i'm glad i mentioned !
You are more than welcome @Dalia I really hope you enjoy it ,happy memories and stuff. i will try find more
Christina_Denied_Tx1885
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Prince & the NPG - Act 1 tour: LIVE ( Maple Leaf Gardens - Toronto, Canada ) 30/03/93
@Dalia is it useful?
That's a whole concert [ not pro shot] for ..over 2 hours - 2:04 :27 I am currently curious about Victor /the Act I & Act II tour. So I am using years to find any tidbit & found his tour In Canada
Christina_Denied_Tx1885
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Credits to Prince Vault -/ i'll bookmark this here for now
we /i can refer back
Christina_Denied_Tx1885
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Prince - Radio City Music Hall, NYC 3-26-93 (New Power Generation) tour.
@Dalia I watched this 1 last night, How was the 38 min pro shot? I think that everything i'll search & bring back to base , you'll know lol But worth a go?
i watched another video too but , for the life of me ..i don't know where it went. i was doing my clicky thing again] well It looked to be in the 90s & he was wearing white ,like a long gown and she sprayed him, She sprayed #1 on him. These are the points I recall last night. There was a lot of piano playing & alot of rapping. But it escapes me.
Anyhow this concert here, the NYC one it is 2 hours , 26. 54 if you haven't seen it for a long time / yet.
Edit- This has just been uploaded too from CL C. However I don't know how long it is, cause it's not showing up for me.
PRINCE &α΅α΄΄α΄±NPG
LIVE at Glam Slam 1992 | THE SACRIFICE OF VICTOR [*Blu Ray*]οΈ
Dalia
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@Christina_Denied_Tx1885 I will write the info on paper and see what videos are on YouTube. I have
seen a couple of clips from 1993 Prince concerts on YouTube.
seen a couple of clips from 1993 Prince concerts on YouTube.
Christina_Denied_Tx1885
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Well that sounds great, I'll try and find more stuff too
Christina_Denied_Tx1885
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Ah i must have missed you. Good evening
afternoon morning @Dalia How are you doin? & thank you for the likes.For you
[OG probably seen it ten thousand billion times
but heyho the prentice , she trys ! oh , how she trys 
lol ]
Dalia
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How are you? @Christina_Denied_Tx1885 And thank you for your time posting All the Pictures in several
threads!
threads!
Christina_Denied_Tx1885
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Really? Oh I am glad I have found one you have not seen then. Oh yeah he is wearing sunnies there. You like that don't you ? *makes note to self*
I'm good thank you @Dalia . And i hope all is well with ya . Oh yeah , that's no problem. it's quite therapeutic to post because you never know what you might find. Thank You for all the likes on them.
Christina_Denied_Tx1885
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Ah.. so. I was watching the graffiti bridge trailer about to post, when i came across Shelia E - Prince Was in Pain a Lot.
There are some thought provoking comments too in the section. I picked four.
1/Prince jumped off rafters, pianos, speakers...all sorts of things all in high heels, then he'd drop into a split and come back up. It's 100% logical that he'd damage his body over the years...and he did it for many years. I can't imagine what it felt like when his body started telling him no, because he was such a perfectionist and avid professional. Best all around entertainer for me...he had an amazing vocal range, wrote/composed/produced all his own music, danced incredibly and played an insane amount of instruments. I can't think of another artist who could do all that.
2/After all of the years of giving his all vocally and physically, hard to fathom that he was carrying pain like that, Sheila E. too, hats off
3/Prince's musical catalog, both released and unreleased has aged like a fine wine. Funny how you develop a deeper appreciation for certain things as your senses and mind ages...the very same things that as a younger person you could not really processes the way you can now. Harmonically Prince knew exactly where and when to carefully place phrases, sequences and chunks of music and experimentation in the studio. You listen to songs like Pop Life, you feel emotions that you can't even describe with words - spectrums of feelings you can't really feel until you listen to ONLY Prince. His sound contained its own vocabulary of colors and feelings - like he created and owned his own color and sound palettes! His true genius is how different people have wildly-varying interpretations of these thoughts and emotions and how we all arrive at the same destination of fanship and love for him and his music!
4/That comes to show as fans we expect so much from our idols. They hurt, they cry, and get very exhausted as we do when we have work and do a job. It's alot of pressure on celebs to be perfect without people saying negative things. We really really don't know the probpems they go through in private. People and critics and magazine poeple always got things to say about you. You got to be a strong person physically and emotionally to be famous. I love you Sheila E! Prince I also loved. What a beautiful showmanship he had! RIP my brotha. Peace.
There are some thought provoking comments too in the section. I picked four.1/Prince jumped off rafters, pianos, speakers...all sorts of things all in high heels, then he'd drop into a split and come back up. It's 100% logical that he'd damage his body over the years...and he did it for many years. I can't imagine what it felt like when his body started telling him no, because he was such a perfectionist and avid professional. Best all around entertainer for me...he had an amazing vocal range, wrote/composed/produced all his own music, danced incredibly and played an insane amount of instruments. I can't think of another artist who could do all that.
2/After all of the years of giving his all vocally and physically, hard to fathom that he was carrying pain like that, Sheila E. too, hats off
3/Prince's musical catalog, both released and unreleased has aged like a fine wine. Funny how you develop a deeper appreciation for certain things as your senses and mind ages...the very same things that as a younger person you could not really processes the way you can now. Harmonically Prince knew exactly where and when to carefully place phrases, sequences and chunks of music and experimentation in the studio. You listen to songs like Pop Life, you feel emotions that you can't even describe with words - spectrums of feelings you can't really feel until you listen to ONLY Prince. His sound contained its own vocabulary of colors and feelings - like he created and owned his own color and sound palettes! His true genius is how different people have wildly-varying interpretations of these thoughts and emotions and how we all arrive at the same destination of fanship and love for him and his music!
4/That comes to show as fans we expect so much from our idols. They hurt, they cry, and get very exhausted as we do when we have work and do a job. It's alot of pressure on celebs to be perfect without people saying negative things. We really really don't know the probpems they go through in private. People and critics and magazine poeple always got things to say about you. You got to be a strong person physically and emotionally to be famous. I love you Sheila E! Prince I also loved. What a beautiful showmanship he had! RIP my brotha. Peace.
Dalia
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@Christina_Denied_Tx1885 _Denied_TX I have heard a lot of Prince's work associates talk to interviewers
about him and the health situation that started because of his acrobatic performance acts on stage.
I do not know if someone told him when he was in his 30s to not do so much acrobatics on stage?
He was a GEMINI Sun sign, he knew that "CRITICS ARE CRITICAL"! And Ironically, many Gemini people are critics,
writers, musicians, artists, inventors! He probably just laughed when he read or heard a negative comment about
him! He was very busy over the years composing over 40 Studio Albums, starring in several movies, producing
music for other artists, touring, performing in concerts, etc.
about him and the health situation that started because of his acrobatic performance acts on stage.
I do not know if someone told him when he was in his 30s to not do so much acrobatics on stage?
He was a GEMINI Sun sign, he knew that "CRITICS ARE CRITICAL"! And Ironically, many Gemini people are critics,
writers, musicians, artists, inventors! He probably just laughed when he read or heard a negative comment about
him! He was very busy over the years composing over 40 Studio Albums, starring in several movies, producing
music for other artists, touring, performing in concerts, etc.
Christina_Denied_Tx1885
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Yeah good points ...really good points. And there are alot of videos out there . I have maybe watched a couple videos but not many... because at that time i had zero reason to , Like it didn;t sink in plus even now I'm not really sure what to look for.... but that title seemed to catch my eye there, Mm it seemed he hid that pain well ..
yeah really well , Your man never um...well... he never whined or like , woe is me ... took a oh , woe is me kind of path did he? he never really sang you his blues , his context of art was about how he can please you, so i don;t mean sexually i mean how he can make you happy right ? his songs are for you .. the listener yeah, oh thats the title of his first album mm.. anyway he never really said ....or i haven't heard from him yet something like - hey my name is prince and my day is going shit and you should all cry along with me and feel my pain let me show you my pain, i am in so much pain ...let me tell you how that feels, it HURTS and THIS IS MY PAIN because my day is shit , right ? ----- I hope that ,ake sense i really do , no , i am not tearing up as i wriiite this lol .. er .. and maybe i have bought myself to a new epiphany ...that maybe it is a new wildly, new experience lyrically completely for me because i am not used to hearing songs with a running 'you ' theme , which are ' for me' right ? - not used to hearing i dont know ....not sure if this will make sense in tect "how is your day , Do u feel alright? i've been waiting on u. here ,take these flowers ... we can .... , "it has been more [along the lines of] so , " yeah well this is my day and this is my pain , here feel the weight of all that pain, on top of that let me gift you some world problems - and no i don;t feel alright so what are you going to do about it ? hello ...solution for my pain, here...got any ? "
so when he is simply offering you diamonds and dresses etc you are like no mate , cause its strange for me to take ,
See , because coming from a by-stander because that is what i was when it came to this guy , Can't ever lie and say oh my name is Christina and i had his back , oh poor guy i feel him , yeah i remember the times with him, oh yeah lovesexy was sooooo.... i grew up with ... because ....painfully , yeah he didn't exsist in my world but I would have never in amillion years you know , attached pain to him . um or ever thought that he could be in pain to begin , Let alone that much pain. the physical pain is one thing , but plus the mental pain [i will elaborate in a while cause this is probably one of those deep yaps that i sometimes blurt out or have been feeling the need to] He...no , not even he, i couldn't even picture a person , cause i didn't care - why should i ? prince was 'horrible' ok , so the name of him right , the name Prince always struck me as some standoffish overally sex mad ungrateful bugger who was cold iron clad , um didn't climb trees, zero peace sign & yeah all a bit of a question mark really , like , why would people support someone who wasnt kind or giving ..no , who didn't seem openly giving. right ?....buuuut ,. bear with me - [ as i go along this journey] I'm actuallu finding out that it is total bs to think that of this one ..that my assumptions couldn't have been any more false. LOl at myself -when i saw th sign O the Times cover. for the first time mm .
But i dont want to wear or start to wear rose coloured glasses with him because although i don;t agree with how he handled certain things & i'm not sure of his emotional depth , his confusing silent yet biting tounge , i'm still on the fence with all of that cause someone says something and they will say it so convincing then you read another opinion from someone who was much closer to him . ...and then ah , you know ? anyway your comment made me think of ... and i don't know if this is the title 'All the critics love me in new york' or something like that ? i think it is on Controversy. It is on an earlier album. i know that much.
But Like i was mentioning earlier when we listened to Originals , i didn't realise how much of his art he gave away that whole album, he wrote for others, so , so much [& more than likely art we will never know , because he was very much private with it] & creating art is a personal thing for some & for some , art can be the only sanity they have and he gave alot of his art away. That is a pretty selfless thing to do.
So to maybe address that emotional issue /barrier which for me , He...
cause it come across so distant in Graffiti Bridge, but it comes from a good , if childlike heart , that he was always thinking , unless he's just acting but i really feel , i wanna believe that Graffiti Bridge is the core of him,,,& i cant really fathom why this part of his artistry isn;t so cherished , talked about ..loved or thought about more deeply within in his core fan base but i'm not talking here , i think you are all very understanding souls here plsu totally get it ~ i mean the you tube comments from the ogs there ..these ones, the ,,,'Omg!This man is something!!Beautiful,sexy...magic
Oi PRINCE your too beautiful sweetie pie
"anyhow,
i'm thinking he must have had so much , almost toooo much art in him , if there could be such a thing. So, maybe he had that kind of ...offish, distant kooky air about him because he was continually thinking or hearing sounds or music ? seeing colours -visions too maybe ? so he could never really be present for say , small talk or , im curious of his emotional depth and exactly just how deep was it , if it was a stream or an ocean. Did he suffer from terrible anxiety that kind of stuff which is often swept under the carpet . And we won't ever know but so, for the most part we could maybe ...or i, as a new kid could maybe say , he was never really 'in the room' cause he was always in the studio and had a great need to get out this art tht was flowing constant , since creating art it's a process and many get writer block ....
Did he ever mention that ? writers block ? or did he never get that ...if he never got writers block or hardly ever , he would never have had a break - cause he would be ...buzzing , brimming with thought & ideas annnnd content ~ always , always , always thinking here.
Like the core of good art is constant thinking - what line next - or for him, what line next ? what sound next ?,, what - what next ? or if it just pops up in every day sound ...or something so unecpected yet so fantastical that you have to get it out and quick ! ~yeah thats going to be grinding ,,, sooooo , if you are able to like not only write , sing and dance but play all those instruments ,,,well in all honesty then that bloke was not getting a break ever. His mind would have been like , I don;t know dalia , I can't really fathom it. a car wash , a conveyor belt,,,an ongoing loop of sounds ...words? both . Did he ever talk about his creative process in depth with you all ?
I will have to post twic sorry
Christina_Denied_Tx1885
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but i can back up what i just said , see in an interview ..you will sure to know which one , it is an audio from 198...2 ,, maqybe 5 ... and he said something very brief , like..... he'll be in the bathroom cleaning his teeth and the sound of the tooth brush clinking when he puts it back in the holder , he atomically will hear a song , a sound ... he didn't exactly say that , but it was pretty much the jist of it. I will quote later ...it might even be on yt but yeah if that was the case.... which has been going around in my mind since listnint to that interview ...now , to know that he suffered with that amount of pain .combined with all that body pain , aches , that must be godawfully draining for the poor bloke if i/m honest.
It feels kind of surreal to write this because i never , ever, ever , ever m ever thought id be on his side , or at least try to see his side -in ten kazillion years its really ironic to me , to be brutally honest. But i'm not laughing here & msince this journey has taken a turn , yeah i do feel some sort of compassion here.
Another thing right , When we watched the party for his cherry moon flick , I remember thinking , oh how rude !! he just ran off from the reporter! why are you gonna doo that for ? , I was a bit speechless actually but i'm now thinking , since i heard what he said in the audio of the other interview ... maybe all that sound his fans were making , that could have been the next song ? maybe he heard something else within that area of noise, screaming , maybe completely casting out the adoration and chants , maybe he heard the next song idea /part of ? or....... maybe he ran off because he lost focus on what said reporter was asking , which was no doubt a question about himself ...[oh damn , i forgot what she was asking him .. ] mybe some small talk the reporters tend to do, maybe a how do you feel ...
because that noise over there was far more interesting to him ...because it concerned people ~ which he felt the need 2 make happy. does that make any sense ? or am i painting a completely different picture ...i don't for a moment want to paint him as a people pleaser , i just think, at this point it would make total sense to me to now think he was selfless in the art of giving... but i don't think he could receive too much.
I'm gonna put a pic of him to lighten this convo
It feels kind of surreal to write this because i never , ever, ever , ever m ever thought id be on his side , or at least try to see his side -in ten kazillion years its really ironic to me , to be brutally honest. But i'm not laughing here & msince this journey has taken a turn , yeah i do feel some sort of compassion here.
Another thing right , When we watched the party for his cherry moon flick , I remember thinking , oh how rude !! he just ran off from the reporter! why are you gonna doo that for ? , I was a bit speechless actually but i'm now thinking , since i heard what he said in the audio of the other interview ... maybe all that sound his fans were making , that could have been the next song ? maybe he heard something else within that area of noise, screaming , maybe completely casting out the adoration and chants , maybe he heard the next song idea /part of ? or....... maybe he ran off because he lost focus on what said reporter was asking , which was no doubt a question about himself ...[oh damn , i forgot what she was asking him .. ] mybe some small talk the reporters tend to do, maybe a how do you feel ...
because that noise over there was far more interesting to him ...because it concerned people ~ which he felt the need 2 make happy. does that make any sense ? or am i painting a completely different picture ...i don't for a moment want to paint him as a people pleaser , i just think, at this point it would make total sense to me to now think he was selfless in the art of giving... but i don't think he could receive too much.
I'm gonna put a pic of him to lighten this convo
barnswallow
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??? enterprise resource planning software ???
blissfully strolling without a clue as to what that isfeeling your frustration though!