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Do you have a favorite podcast(s) that you like to listen to?? In this case, political or religious ones, since that's the forum. One I've recently started listening to is Noel Casler Podcast. I was listening along to episode 8 today. Enjoyed all of it. Then, at the end, he went off on a Prince detour. If you want to check it out. For the part on Prince, come in at 59 minutes.:
Noel Casler Podcast Episode 8
 
Darth Vader's Daughter just got the hatchet. Unbelievable.

Liz Cheney GIF by GIPHY News
 
Darth Vader's Daughter just got the hatchet. Unbelievable.

Liz Cheney GIF by GIPHY News
oof... and, in the NY Times yesterday:
Over 100 Republicans, including former officials, threaten to split
yowza
“When in our democratic republic, forces of conspiracy, division, and despotism arise, it is the patriotic duty of citizens to act collectively in defense of liberty and justice,” reads the preamble to the full statement, which is expected to be released on Thursday.
The effort comes as House Republican leaders are expected on Wednesday to oust Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming from their ranks because of her outspoken criticism of Mr. Trump’s election lies.

“This is a first step,” said Miles Taylor, an organizer of the effort and a former Trump-era Department of Homeland Security official who anonymously wrote a book condemning the Trump administration. In October, Mr. Taylor acknowledged he was the author of both the book and a 2018 New York Times Op-Ed article.
“This is us saying that a group of more than 100 prominent Republicans think that the situation has gotten so dire with the Republican Party that it is now time to seriously consider whether an alternative might be the only option,” he said.
I would be happy to see a third party arise but speculate they may retain the same obstructionist, backward-looking, elitist mentality as has been the case these many, many years, minus trump. Anything's preferable to the situation we have now with its divisiveness, incitement of violence, and outright lying.
 
oof... and, in the NY Times yesterday:
Over 100 Republicans, including former officials, threaten to split
yowza

I would be happy to see a third party arise but speculate they may retain the same obstructionist, backward-looking, elitist mentality as has been the case these many, many years, minus trump. Anything's preferable to the situation we have now with its divisiveness, incitement of violence, and outright lying.
Of course we should have more parties. But that would mean taking money out of politics, when all we've done is inserted more (plus corporate) money for years now, Supreme court sanctioned.

One of the huge sticking points is that only about 60% of eligible voters actually vote. It ticked up to @ 67% with the insanity of the Trump presidency. One of the reasons the GOP is so focused on limiting voting. They can't win otherwise, it's not speculation, it's fact.
 
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If this splintered-off Republican party happens, which do you think would win out? It does come down to money. Would it be the current mobsters with ample dark money sources, seemingly welcoming of foreign inputs with no depth too low to go? Or, this splintered-off group, which might have some whisper of integrity? I know the dems aren't exempt from playing the money game and that the supreme court has made glaring mistakes with decisions like citizen united. My main concern is the 'can democracy survive the current gop' question. That seems urgent with 18 months to the midterms. That's roughly what I care about right now.
 
If this splintered-off Republican party happens, which do you think would win out? It does come down to money. Would it be the current mobsters with ample dark money sources, seemingly welcoming of foreign inputs with no depth too low to go? Or, this splintered-off group, which might have some whisper of integrity? I know the dems aren't exempt from playing the money game and that the supreme court has made glaring mistakes with decisions like citizen united. My main concern is the 'can democracy survive the current gop' question. That seems urgent with 18 months to the midterms. That's roughly what I care about right now.

If some of the party DOES splinter off they doom each other's future - or one gains momentum and re-absorbs the other. With the majority of the country registered Democrat (but does not necessarily always vote Democrat) a third off-shoot of the GOP could guarantee Dems stay in power. I disagree about 99% of the time with Cheney, but she is right about Trumpism - 100%
 
Holy Schizophrenia Batman! They just axed Cheney in a voice only vote - cowards.

It Is Over Republican National Convention GIF by Election 2016



Hours after Rep. Liz Cheney was ousted from her Republican leadership position for rebuking former President Donald Trump's ongoing claim that the election was "stolen" from him, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy told reporters, "I don’t think anybody is questioning the legitimacy of the presidential election."

"I think that is all over with,"
McCarthy, R-Calif., said at the White House, where he was meeting with President Joe Biden, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell about Biden's infrastructure plans.

"We're sitting here with the president today, so from that point of view I don’t think that’s a problem,” McCarthy said.
 
Greene was caught harassing AOC again as she was leaving the House floor. And then someone dug up a video Greene did in 2019 in which she was harassing AOC. AOC needs to get a restraining order.
 
Trump tried an off the books pull out of troops from Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Germany, and Africa:
He wanted the troops pulled out of each of those countries by no later than 1/20/21. The order was made 11/9/20, after he lost the election to Biden.
 
:clap: Other states he is being investigated in may follow.

May 19, 20213:24 AM ET


"We have informed the Trump Organization that our investigation into the organization is no longer purely civil in nature," Levy said in a statement. "We are now actively investigating the Trump Organization in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA."
 
LMAO


ABC News: Rudy Giuliani’s son, Andrew Giuliani, to announce he’s running for governor of New York​

Andrew Giuliani, the son of close Trump ally and embattled former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, will announce his run for governor Tuesday afternoon.
 
LMAO


ABC News: Rudy Giuliani’s son, Andrew Giuliani, to announce he’s running for governor of New York​

Andrew Giuliani, the son of close Trump ally and embattled former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, will announce his run for governor Tuesday afternoon.
oh lord, he's got the woodchuck teeth

Andrew Giuliani This Is Disgusting GIF - AndrewGiuliani Giuliani ThisIsDisgusting GIFs
 
LMAO


ABC News: Rudy Giuliani’s son, Andrew Giuliani, to announce he’s running for governor of New York​

Andrew Giuliani, the son of close Trump ally and embattled former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, will announce his run for governor Tuesday afternoon.

He is 35 years old, claimed he spent 32 years in politics and that he is the only candidate that can claim he spent parts of 5 decades in politics.

I don't think he's going to win with that kind of math.
 
A Belarusian MiG-29 fighter jet intercepted and forced an Irish commercial airplane, en route from Greece to Lithuania, to divert its flight path and land in Belarus, a country under the thumb of authoritarian, Viktor Lukaschenko.
Mr. Lukashenko, who is often referred to as “Europe’s last dictator,” personally ordered the fighter jet to escort the Ryanair plane to the Minsk airport after a bomb threat, his press service said. According to the statement, Mr. Lukashenko, an ally of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia, gave an “unequivocal order” to “make the plane do a U-turn and land.”

No bomb was found on board, the country’s law enforcement authorities said.
The KGB (the Belarussian security agency) took a young self-exiled journalist off the plane and into custody for a charge with a potential death sentence.
Mr. Protasevich, 26, was traveling by commercial airline from Athens to Vilnius, Lithuania, when the Belarusian air force scrambled a fighter jet. The flight, on the Irish airline Ryanair, was diverted to Minsk, the capital of Belarus, where the millennial opposition figure was taken into custody.
Belarus tries to justify the action by claiming their was a bomb threat. Anthony Blinken, Biden's Secretary of State:
Antony J. Blinken, the U.S. secretary of state, sharply criticized the government of Belarus on Twitter on Sunday for its detention of Mr. Protasevich. He called it a “brazen and shocking act to divert a commercial flight and arrest a journalist.”“We demand an international investigation and are coordinating with our partners on next steps,” Mr. Blinken said. “The United States stands with the people of Belarus.”

Why is the government so fixated on Mr. Protasevich?

There are few remaining sources of independent news in Belarus, where most media outlets were forced to shut down after widespread protests over a disputed presidential election in 2020.

Mr. Protasevich is a co-founder and a former editor of the NEXTA channel on the social media platform Telegram, which has become a popular conduit for Mr. Lukashenko’s foes to share information and organize demonstrations against the government.

He fled the country in 2019, fearing arrest. But he has continued to roil Mr. Lukashenko’s regime while living in exile in Lithuania, so much so that he was charged in November with inciting public disorder and social hatred.
Link to article in NYTimes (5.23.21): Who Is Roman Protasevich, the Captive Journalist in Belarus?
btw, would people prefer to have an 'international political hodge podge' in addition to the 'political hodge podge' thread, or do you favor mixing them together?
 
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^^ I think we should just combine them for now, given the number of regulars we currently have on the Political forum. It's more important to post and converse than to split the pie into a bunch of threads with a few entries. I'm not sure about splitting USA/International anyway, that was imposed on us before.

Considering what I see on the old org, we are the only ones who don't have an engineered site. They are still arguing the same stuff from years ago (like 60 years ago), because it's all that's allowed with the few still there. Divide & Conquer - YAWN
 
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A Belarusian MiG-29 fighter jet intercepted and forced an Irish commercial airplane, en route from Greece to Lithuania, to divert its flight path and land in Belarus, a country under the thumb of authoritarian, Viktor Lukaschenko.

The KGB (the Belarussian security agency) took a young self-exiled journalist off the plane and into custody for a charge with a potential death sentence.

Belarus tries to justify the action by claiming their was a bomb threat. Anthony Blinken, Biden's Secretary of State:


Link to article in NYTimes (5.23.21): Who Is Roman Protasevich, the Captive Journalist in Belarus?
btw, would people prefer to have an 'international political hodge podge' in addition to the 'political hodge podge' thread, or do you favor mixing them together?

I like keeping it all together. What one politician does can have global ramifications, imo, regardless where they are located. I know that people in the United States are often seen overseas as acting as though they are isolated from the rest of the world (and I think many Americans prefer to think they are), but we aren't really. As we saw with the deranged orange mini mushroom man, these politicians aren't just affecting their own people, but people the world over, and then it can really play out at home (like the attacks against Asians, because Trump kept calling it the Chinese virus and/or his trade war with China and prices increasing on consumers back home).
 
I like keeping it all together. What one politician does can have global ramifications, imo, regardless where they are located. I know that people in the United States are often seen overseas as acting as though they are isolated from the rest of the world (and I think many Americans prefer to think they are), but we aren't really. As we saw with the deranged orange mini mushroom man, these politicians aren't just affecting their own people, but people the world over, and then it can really play out at home (like the attacks against Asians, because Trump kept calling it the Chinese virus and/or his trade war with China and prices increasing on consumers back home).
Good point.

I am still suprised by the conditioning I brought over here from the orchestrated site. Like when we weren't allowed to comment on abortion rights in Alabama - if we didn't live in Alabama.
 

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